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# snsd

Anonymous
So who was in the driver’s seat as far as SJSD’s promotions in Japan, SM or the Japanese label? (Song choice, divvying up the singing lines, choreography, PV concepts, concert set-lists, commercial endorsement negotiations?) I’m asking because if what you say is true that SM has trouble effectively promoting multiple groups at once, perhaps they will lean on Interscope more for future global releases?

SM are the executive producers so they have overall control over the content but the brunt of the work is done by the local distributor like your UMJs. I’m not even sure what SM Japan does.

7 May 7 am ish
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A question about the US promotions. Last year, SM was just 'testing the waters' with The Boys, but now it seems like they're going to have a serious push into the market by ~2013. Does that mean they saw The Boys as an initial success? WAS it a success? (or have they been mislead in the actual popularity magnitude by Kelly/Letterman+NYFanmeet+media?) And, what happens if Soshi do fall short in America?

Interscope and Universal seem to think so.

3 May 12 am ish
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Anonymous
Onion, am I right to say that up until Interscope approached SME in the 4th quarter of 2011, American plans for SNSD were far from the management's minds yet? Definitely it is clear that things have accelerated greatly since then. I also remember that you once said that SNSD is becoming too big for SM to handle. So back to the point, what's the situation right now? Have things come to the point where a proper American debut is increasingly impossible to delay?

False. It was always on the cards. Interscope’s approach was just a catalyst.

I think I said that SNSD’s international and national promotions are too much for SM to handle on its own without someone as big as Universal to hold their hand.

SM is growing. Fast. At least on paper and in money terms.
Their infrastructure and manpower is still just as restricted.

2 May 10 am ish
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Hi Onion! In your opinion, what are the chances of 2NE1 signing under Interscope as well since will i am has been working with them? How about any other label? Frankly I don't see it happening until they start showing profit as high as Soshi's abroad. I don't think they were able to really break through Japan though they haven't released much. I think they have potential but until they have actual numbers to prove it, no US label will take the risk. Thoughts?

The international spread of K-Pop, as ever, relies on the success of those that come first. Before, the common target was known and singular; we’re in an odd situation here where there are multiple targets and multiple points of attacking the international market.

And K-Pop group doing well in the international scene is good for the entire industry. There will be other labels interested in 2NE1 since they are considered to be the closest running mates to SNSD at the moment and SNSD has already be signed up by Interscope… and they will be watching Interscope and the performance of K-Pop in the american market very closely before making a move.

8 Mar 11 am ish
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Anonymous
Did Interscope approach SM to make an English version of The Boys during or before album preparation started? If it was during, was the short notice the reason why the English lyrics don't make as much sense/have less meaning than the Korean lyrics? Was it also the reason for the extra delays leading up to the release?

They approached them quite late, enough for the album to be delayed for weeks. Pop song lyrics have never been much for great messages… as Oasis once said: “It ain’t about the words, it’s about the tunes”

25 Jan 8 am ish
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Anonymous
Is it true that Interscope came to SM first? Or is that an unconfirmed rumor?

It’s true and I’m the one who provided that information.

22 Nov 11 pm ish
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Anonymous
Hi Mr. Onion, I am a little confused with the whole contract between SM and Interscope. If SNSD is to debut in the US, is SM still the main producer for their albums or it will be a collaboration between SM and Interscope? or Is interscope just distributing the albums in the US? Also, with all the interviews and activities that happened during their visit in NY, I want to ask if it is interscope that help arrange all the activities or SM USA arrange them for the girls?

Distributor and promoter is probably the closest thing but remember that contracts are as diverse as the people who design them and the kinds of relationships will differ according to the contract. It’s difficult to put a label on a lot of things.

I’m quite sure that while SM USA is in charge of most things, Interscope and their associates will be dabbling in operations and using connections to influence certain people to mention them etc.

6 Nov 8 am ish
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Thanks for the response. I understand your position and agree. I was in NY for SMTOWN and the fanmeet and actually got to see the the kind of day the girls were having firsthand. Sica was vocal about being tired, Yoona and Taeng struggled during the first interview (that MTV never posted), and Seohyun looked out of it. I just wonder if Interscope witnessed it. Going along with that I have to ask: Do you think Interscope may be against pushing the girls if they misunderstood the situation?

Doubt it. Interscope will have had their people tagging along and would know better than anyone else.

28 Oct 9 am ish
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Anonymous
Do you expect SNSD to be in the U.S. on or around the November 19th debut of their maxi-single CD? I doubt Interscope would have came to an agreement with SME without some promise of promotional support from both parties, with neither side just "mailing it in." Perhaps SNSD are doing their promotional bit in New York now. They are in the media capital of the U.S., so maybe those articles will be printed/posted when the CD is released. (SSF just tweeted a pic of SNSD at a magazine in NY.)

13 Oct 9 pm ish
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What are some specific yardsticks you would look to to say that SNSD has a had a successful debut as a new artist in the U.S.? A To-40 hit? Mainstream radio airplay? A late-night talk-show performance and interview? A specific sales number? A sold-out concert? We aren't privy to the financial aspects of the Interscope deal, but if we do see further English-language albums through Interscope in 2012, that speaks positively for their debut album exceeding expectations, as well as future prospects.

I imagine that any physical release will be a strictly limited number, the value of which will also probably be strictly limited knowledge unless they manage to sell out all of them (though if the initial press was a paltry number, we never hear it at all). Selling the entirety of the initial stock would be a good start and those attending SM Town NYC will have a part to play, since SM should be stocking those for the concert goodies.

The rest of the things you list are very big goals. Some of which seem impossible to me, at the time of writing:

  • A Top-40 hit is perhaps a little too much to ask. Outdoing the Wonder Girls’ efforts on Billboard would probably be counted as a very encouraging start, given the context.
  • I’m quite sure that Interscope have the influence to force at least some mainstream radio airplay but ultimately, they can’t force Americans to want to hear it.
  • Late-night talk show and performance would be great, but only with a top talk show and not just any that will take you. It would have to be an invitation, which is why I think this to be unlikely.
  • Sell-out concert is impossible. SNSD are tied down in Korea until early 2012 and there is literally nothing short of an extraordinary invitation that can convince SM to stage a solo concert in the short-to-medium term. I doubt there would even be demand for a big one outside the Asian-American hotspots.

If we do see further English-language albums through Interscope in 2012, that speaks positively for their debut album exceeding expectations, as well as future prospects.

Or at least meeting expectations. It would show that Interscope think that there is potential for further development, and they know the market far better than any of us on tumblr.

Unless there are any announcements, Interscope and SM’s future actions will be the only yardstick that we can feasibly rely on. Their partnership in itself was very cloak-and-dagger, with only SM executives being involved in the decision.

We can only look at their actions during and following the experiment to interpolate, in a manner similar to backwards induction, to see what the results are.

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Anonymous
Hi Mr. Onion, I was just thinking about what happened to Wonder Girls when they started in the US with Nobody. What are the odds of SNSD to be a success in the US now that they are at the top of their game in Korea? I mean, Wonder Girls was at the top of their game before they went to the US but, everything went downhill from there. It's not that I want it to happen to SNSD, too, but, I just couldn't help wondering about how different would it be for them? Thanks for you answer! -Elton Gagni PH

The approaches are totally different.

The Wonder Girls had a killer hand which they had already revealed to the whole world pre-debut (in the form of a popular hook song, Nobody) and went all-in at the draw.
SNSD have yet to reveal their hand and have called after having seen the flop (no pun intended) and will be watching the turn and river very carefully.

JYP took the girls out of their home turf in Asia and made them rebuild everything. SM are keeping the girls at home, not just in Asia but in Korea, dipping a toe into the water to see the reaction before proceeding.

At this exact moment in time, SM have just announced that they will be dipping their toe. Interscope will be providing a possible water-heating facility and are definitely bringing a towel along, too. As ridiculous as this metaphor sounds, it seems to make sense in my head.

12 Oct 4 pm ish
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do you think Teddy Riley has anything to do with Interscope inviting SNSD, since not long ago you've stated that the guy has some of the craziest acquaintances in the entertainment industry ? also, SM didn't have any plan to venture into the USA market, and the release of 'The Boys' in the states is all because Interscope has asked them to, right ?

(1) Perhaps. Teddy’s been going on about a “master plan” for a while now, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he approached them to approach SM himself. For him, if his “expansion into Asia” makes a hit in Asia and rebounds into the first success in America by an Asian artist worth writing home about, that’s one hell of a feather in his cap.
The motivation and the capability for this scenario all falls into place, making it quite probable.

(2) This is my understanding. While SM were playing around with the idea of pushing artists to go to America, they were approached by Interscope and given that it was Interscope of all people, it would have been foolish not to take the offer, even if it meant changing everything at the last minute. The executives at SM over-ruled everything above everyone else’s heads, which was the reason for all the confusion a few days back. 

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Isn't 2ne1 working with Will.I/am (this what counted as a link -_-)who is also signed with Interscope? How do you feel about that?

But is 2ne1 signed with Interscope?
Is Interscope the company making a move on 2ne1 or is it just Will.i.am, the artist who was signed by Interscope for different reasons, just working on the production of a 2ne1 debut? 

The answers to those questions are what make the difference.

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Anonymous
hey mr. onion what do you think of snsd releasing their single under interscope records? had a bit of a browse through their artist list and damn, that is one impressive list. does this mean that snsd's possible value or impact on the american market is being realised because they're being released under such a big record label?

You could say the same thing about Universal, their label in Japan.

I was told by a very reliable source several days ago, that Interscope approached SM at the last minute; SM didn’t go to Interscope. That is huge.

Sure, SM changed their long-term plans and readjusted schedules for Interscope, but the point is that Interscope wanted to be first in to release SNSD in America. There were no immediate plans for an American foray, but a large American record label asked SM, uninvited, to be the ones to make it happen. Again, that is huge.

We basically have a premier American record label trying to convince SM that SNSD will work in America and that they want the rights. Once more, that is huge. Whether they were being serious or whether they just wanted to be the first to tap into the K-Pop phenomenon is a different story altogether.

SNSD’s supposed value in the American market is likely to be a small fraction of their power in Asia but rest assured, they will be taking one further step forward in building a bridge to America for future K-Pop acts.



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